tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post9105484047880744510..comments2023-03-18T07:36:11.964-07:00Comments on An Open View: Just Ask A Calvinist!Preston Nhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-65870737245233268182011-12-28T09:33:42.145-08:002011-12-28T09:33:42.145-08:00Eli - It might pay to know and understand what hyp...Eli - It might pay to know and understand what hyperbole is when reading certain comments from Paul. Secondly, in regards to your use of 1 John 1:10 - I guess we are to throw out the over 31 references John makes in the rest of his epistle whereby he says to abstain from sinning???<br /><br />1 John 2:1-6<br /><br />1My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 2and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.<br /><br />3By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.Preston Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-67862548746338278352011-12-26T18:43:45.012-08:002011-12-26T18:43:45.012-08:00If anyone was perfect it would have been Paul, yet...If anyone was perfect it would have been Paul, yet he called himself chief of sinners. (1Ti 1:15)<br /> <br />God commands us to be perfect knowing that we will fail because through our failure we know better our own depravity and helplessness.<br /><br />2Cr 12:9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me<br /><br />1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.Eli Fryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04415968677485395904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-59123725375862217702008-10-15T16:08:00.000-07:002008-10-15T16:08:00.000-07:00Anonymous please see my response in my latest post...Anonymous please see my response in my latest post.Preston Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-43742100726136941092008-10-15T08:10:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:10:00.000-07:00This format allows anonymity, I’ll take it. That ...This format allows anonymity, I’ll take it. That way, I can be frank with you. (ha, I made a joke). <BR/>I mean sinless perfection, without sin, totally righteous (I’m on a roll). That is the standard to which you have called us to. The only way this isn’t a yes or no question, is if there is a legitimate definition which includes sin. I’m assuming you want me to define sin. <BR/><BR/>The Old Testament defines sin as: <BR/>1: transgression of the law. The law defines righteousness, any violation is sin. If you violate one point, you are guilty of all. (James 2:10) Deuteronomy 6:24-25 is a statement of this principle from the perspective that a person who keeps the law is righteous. Up until Jesus time, the bible tells us He is the only one who fulfilled the law. <BR/>2: a breach of the covenant.. Any breach of this covenant was viewed as sin (Deut. 29:19-21.) Not applicable to us.<BR/>3: (Lev. 11:45.) Any deviation from God’s own righteousness is viewed as sin.<BR/><BR/>No one was able to fulfill the Old Testament and the New Testament is even tougher. Like you said, sin is now the inner motive that leads to the act that is the real sin. The outward deed is actually the fruit of sin.<BR/>The New Testament defines sin as: <BR/>1: Anger in the heart is the same as murder (Matt. 5:21-22). <BR/>2: The impure look is the same as adultery (Matt. 5:27-28). <BR/>3: Worry is not of faith, it is sin (Luke 12:22- 26). <BR/>4: If you know the good you’re supposed to do and you don’t do it, it is sin (James 4:17) <BR/>5: All unrighteousness is sin (1 john 5:17). <BR/>6: Anything not done in faith, is sin (Romans 14:23). <BR/>7: Love your enemies AND pray for them, and it can’t be that lightening strikes them. Do you love Calvinists? (Matt 5:44) <BR/>8: Contentiousness is sin (Romans 2:8). Check out your answer to the person before me?<BR/>9: Judging others is sin (Matt 7:1) <BR/>10: You have to give to everyone who asks you and let anyone borrow from you (Matt 5:42)<BR/>11: You have to tame your tongue, according to James no man can do it (James 3:8)<BR/>12: The very act of claiming to be sinless is a sin in itself, as this Scripture so ably demonstrates. A person claiming not to have sin deceives himself or herself, and in effect calls Christ a liar. I John 1:10<BR/>Sin is the opposite of righteousness or moral straightness to the smallest detail like selfishness and greed. <BR/><BR/>Since Adam and Eve rebelled against the command of God, sin has infected all humanity like a cancer. (Romans 3:23 and Romans 5:12)The bible does not tell us how. Some passages suggest nature inclined toward evil and others it is clear it is due to human choice. Despite what you say, the Jews do admit the two mutually exclusive ideas into the same thought process. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia: "Man is responsible for sin because he is endowed with free will ("behirah"); yet he is by nature frail, and the tendency of the mind is to evil: "For the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth" (Gen. viii. 21; Yoma 20a; Sanh. 105a).<BR/><BR/>The difference between the Old Testament and New Testament is that now, sin is defined against the backdrop of Jesus as the standard for righteousness. His life is the example of perfection. If you can claim that you are living as Jesus, then you can claim that you are perfect and that you have stopped sinning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-3234914295253166832008-10-12T09:26:00.000-07:002008-10-12T09:26:00.000-07:00Anonymous - if you know me then why not identify y...Anonymous - if you know me then why not identify yourself? Are you hiding something?<BR/><BR/>First, this is not an answer that can be made with a simple yes or no. If I have a different definition of biblical perfection than yours then its will do me no good to answer your question. We must first define the terms of this discussion. So I would first respond by saying how do you define "biblical perfection"?Preston Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-66544114959967237372008-10-12T09:23:00.000-07:002008-10-12T09:23:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Preston Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-3396432551376200692008-10-12T07:37:00.000-07:002008-10-12T07:37:00.000-07:00This is a yes or a no question, Are you perfect? ...This is a yes or a no question, Are you perfect? Just a yes or no. Be advised, I DO know you on a personal level and I am longing to hear this answer. I am not the same anonymous as above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-11486441462998604982008-09-25T10:19:00.000-07:002008-09-25T10:19:00.000-07:00Pride?? Wherever did you get that I was being pri...Pride?? Wherever did you get that I was being prideful from this post? I must have struck a nerve with my post regarding sin for you to lash out the way you did here. <B>"Anonymous doth protest too much, methinks?!"</B> :)<BR/><BR/>Besides, do you know me personally? Do you witness daily my walk with the Lord?? If you don't know me on a personal level then I would suggest you not making such character assinations.Preston Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991774143865736294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304078182276790956.post-27256741158765857152008-09-25T09:52:00.000-07:002008-09-25T09:52:00.000-07:00I guess you must be perfect, and that pride is no ...I guess you must be perfect, and that pride is no longer a sin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com